Comments on: Libertarian Feminism versus Monarchist Anarchism http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:11:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Club Penguin Catalogs http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1708 Club Penguin Catalogs Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:49:05 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1708 Perfect timing with this post Perfect timing with this post

]]> By: Mawahib http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1606 Mawahib Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:24:31 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1606 I am heading over to check out your Etsy site now! I am heading over to check out your Etsy site now!

]]> By: Social Libertarianism, & The Heart Of Freedom « Thoughts on Freedom http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1583 Social Libertarianism, & The Heart Of Freedom « Thoughts on Freedom Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:06:21 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1583 [...] continuation of an earlier debate between Todd Seavey & Keri Howley, which you may read here, here, here and here. Essentially Ms. Howley argued that libertarianism ought be concerned with [...] [...] continuation of an earlier debate between Todd Seavey & Keri Howley, which you may read here, here, here and here. Essentially Ms. Howley argued that libertarianism ought be concerned with [...]

]]> By: Jo Duffy http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1537 Jo Duffy Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:45:39 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1537 Todays fresh passes. 4/11-09, Barely Legal Pass! Link/Download (http://sharembit.com/386/bar-legal.zip.html) Todays fresh passes. 4/11-09, Barely Legal Pass! Link/Download (http://sharembit.com/386/bar-legal.zip.html)

]]> By: Club Penguin Cheats http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1489 Club Penguin Cheats Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:56:51 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1489 Most people don’t realize that out of 44 American presidents, only the last 15 were elected in a truly democratic fashion by all of our citizens — men AND women. Until 1920 women were denied the vote, and few people have any idea of the struggle our suffragettes had to go through to right this wrong. Most people don’t realize that out of 44 American presidents, only the last 15 were elected in a truly democratic fashion by all of our citizens — men AND women. Until 1920 women were denied the vote, and few people have any idea of the struggle our suffragettes had to go through to right this wrong.

]]> By: Wirkman Netizen » Blog Archive » One of the benefits of being an individualist is never having to truck with feminism http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1106 Wirkman Netizen » Blog Archive » One of the benefits of being an individualist is never having to truck with feminism Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:17:26 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1106 [...] away from Roderick Long and Charles Johnson (also only dealt with tangentially), and confront Ms. Kerry Howley’s arguments. Here goes: For some reason, various libertarian-leaning men are only capable of acknowledging the [...] [...] away from Roderick Long and Charles Johnson (also only dealt with tangentially), and confront Ms. Kerry Howley’s arguments. Here goes: For some reason, various libertarian-leaning men are only capable of acknowledging the [...]

]]> By: Fabulous Posts I Have No Comment On « Elizabeth Nolan Brown http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1049 Fabulous Posts I Have No Comment On « Elizabeth Nolan Brown Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:10:55 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1049 [...] Kerry Howley on libertarianism and feminism again: We don’t call it “consciousness raising” when we explain why you ought to be able to [...] [...] Kerry Howley on libertarianism and feminism again: We don’t call it “consciousness raising” when we explain why you ought to be able to [...]

]]> By: PFJO http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1044 PFJO Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:19:05 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1044 “If Todd wants to argue that women aren’t oppressed because they accept their assigned roles, he’d better be willing to accept the idea that governmental authority is not oppressive because most people don’t complain.” I find this quote irksome because of Ms. Howley’s subtle intellectual con… the use of the word MOST. Truthfully, a government is only required because some people don’t agree… and have to be forced. If those people agreed, then a coercive state would be unnecessary. If everyone accepted governmental authority then they wouldn’t need it and would in fact be free… the issue is what happens to the dissenter? Can a woman, or anyone dissent from popular opinion and if so, are they coerced as a result? Social ostracization isn’t the same as Coercion (although not necessarily contrary to) and until Ms. Howley understands that this is an absurd debate. “If Todd wants to argue that women aren’t oppressed because they accept their assigned roles, he’d better be willing to accept the idea that governmental authority is not oppressive because most people don’t complain.”

I find this quote irksome because of Ms. Howley’s subtle intellectual con… the use of the word MOST.

Truthfully, a government is only required because some people don’t agree… and have to be forced. If those people agreed, then a coercive state would be unnecessary. If everyone accepted governmental authority then they wouldn’t need it and would in fact be free… the issue is what happens to the dissenter? Can a woman, or anyone dissent from popular opinion and if so, are they coerced as a result?

Social ostracization isn’t the same as Coercion (although not necessarily contrary to) and until Ms. Howley understands that this is an absurd debate.

]]> By: ToddSeavey.com » Blog Archive » Feuding Political Couples http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1036 ToddSeavey.com » Blog Archive » Feuding Political Couples Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:02:17 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1036 [...] people as free so long as their property rights and bodily integrity are not violated. Kerry objected. I responded. Kerry objected [...] [...] people as free so long as their property rights and bodily integrity are not violated. Kerry objected. I responded. Kerry objected [...]

]]> By: Against Fake Libertarian Clarity http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1031 Against Fake Libertarian Clarity Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:52:34 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1031 [...] This exchange reminds me that many (maybe most) self-styled libertarians think that libertarianism is, by definition, a philosophy that conceives of liberty as a lack of coercion, and, additionally, that coercion is something easy to understand. For these libertarians, just as one might decide to take up an interest in the plight of foreign war orphans, one might decide to be troubled by the fact that some people’s lives are stunted or ruined by arbitrary yet systemic exclusion, or by having the development of their interests and talents constantly discouraged and their aspirations and confidence constantly undermined. But these elective worries cannot flow from an interest in liberty, because liberty is about not being threatened with involuntary confinement in a small room, while these things are about being threatened with involuntary confinement in a small life. [...] [...] This exchange reminds me that many (maybe most) self-styled libertarians think that libertarianism is, by definition, a philosophy that conceives of liberty as a lack of coercion, and, additionally, that coercion is something easy to understand. For these libertarians, just as one might decide to take up an interest in the plight of foreign war orphans, one might decide to be troubled by the fact that some people’s lives are stunted or ruined by arbitrary yet systemic exclusion, or by having the development of their interests and talents constantly discouraged and their aspirations and confidence constantly undermined. But these elective worries cannot flow from an interest in liberty, because liberty is about not being threatened with involuntary confinement in a small room, while these things are about being threatened with involuntary confinement in a small life. [...]

]]> By: What’s A Libertarian? Can A Feminist Be One? « Matt Zeitlin: Impetuous Young Whippersnapper http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1029 What’s A Libertarian? Can A Feminist Be One? « Matt Zeitlin: Impetuous Young Whippersnapper Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:01:00 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1029 [...] re: whether libertarians can be feminists and vice versa, but if you want catch up, click here, here, here and [...] [...] re: whether libertarians can be feminists and vice versa, but if you want catch up, click here, here, here and [...]

]]> By: Virginia Harris http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1027 Virginia Harris Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:29:26 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1027 Women were not treated with equal respect in this campaign, but at least women were in it. Now that the 2008 election and its historic high turnout is history, there is much greater appreciation for the privilege of voting. But most people don't realize that out of 44 American presidents, only the last 15 were elected in a truly democratic fashion by all of our citizens -- men AND women. Until 1920 women were denied the vote, and few people have any idea of the struggle our suffragettes had to go through to right this wrong. It's an amazing, awe-inspiring story! Now you can subscribe FREE to my exciting historical e-mail series that reveals HOW the suffragettes won votes for women. Believe me, it wasn't easy! "The Privilege of Voting" is drawing rave reviews from readers all over the world. Dramatic, sequential short-story episodes follow the lives of eight of the world's most famous women to tell the true stories of the courage of the suffragettes. Read this FREE e-mail series on your coffeebreaks and be inspired by these amazing women! Subscribe free at www.CoffeebreakReaders.com/subscribe.html Women were not treated with equal respect in this campaign, but at least women were in it.

Now that the 2008 election and its historic high turnout is history, there is much greater appreciation for the privilege of voting.

But most people don’t realize that out of 44 American presidents, only the last 15 were elected in a truly democratic fashion by all of our citizens — men AND women.

Until 1920 women were denied the vote, and few people have any idea of the struggle our suffragettes had to go through to right this wrong. It’s an amazing, awe-inspiring story!

Now you can subscribe FREE to my exciting historical e-mail series that reveals HOW the suffragettes won votes for women. Believe me, it wasn’t easy!

“The Privilege of Voting” is drawing rave reviews from readers all over the world. Dramatic, sequential short-story episodes follow the lives of eight of the world’s most famous women to tell the true stories of the courage of the suffragettes. Read this FREE e-mail series on your coffeebreaks and be inspired by these amazing women!

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]]> By: Anon http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1026 Anon Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:43:25 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1026 I'm surprised you didn't link to <a href="http://charleswjohnson.name/essays/libertarian-feminism/" rel="nofollow">this piece</a> by Roderick Long and Charles Johnson. It seems like it would be worth just using the link rather than having to make the same arguments over and over to libertarians like Seavey (as opposed to those like Long and Johnson). Anon I’m surprised you didn’t link to this piece by Roderick Long and Charles Johnson. It seems like it would be worth just using the link rather than having to make the same arguments over and over to libertarians like Seavey (as opposed to those like Long and Johnson).

Anon

]]> By: Kevin B. O'Reilly http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1024 Kevin B. O'Reilly Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:09:44 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1024 Wendy McElroy, the anarchist libertarian woman who coined the term "individualist feminism," runs ifeminists.com, and wrote the book "XXX: A Woman's Right to Pornography," does not strike me as having "conservative impulses." If she's ever written about "The Vagina Monologues," I don't remember it. You may not have had her in mind, but if you didn't you should have as she is the foremost proponent of individualist feminism. If you've got other folks in mind, perhaps Christina Hoff Sommers, you should say so. Wendy McElroy, the anarchist libertarian woman who coined the term “individualist feminism,” runs ifeminists.com, and wrote the book “XXX: A Woman’s Right to Pornography,” does not strike me as having “conservative impulses.” If she’s ever written about “The Vagina Monologues,” I don’t remember it.

You may not have had her in mind, but if you didn’t you should have as she is the foremost proponent of individualist feminism. If you’ve got other folks in mind, perhaps Christina Hoff Sommers, you should say so.

]]> By: ToddSeavey.com » Blog Archive » All Y’All Bitches Is Wrong http://kerryhowley.com/2008/11/07/libertarian-feminism-versus-monarchist-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1023 ToddSeavey.com » Blog Archive » All Y’All Bitches Is Wrong Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:29:51 +0000 http://kerryhowley.com/?p=159#comment-1023 [...] seem to be the implication of a confused pro-feminism — yet ostensibly libertarian — blog entry by libertarian Kerry Howley, who (not so unlike my ex-girlfriend Koli Mitra) thinks it is somehow baffling that so many [...] [...] seem to be the implication of a confused pro-feminism — yet ostensibly libertarian — blog entry by libertarian Kerry Howley, who (not so unlike my ex-girlfriend Koli Mitra) thinks it is somehow baffling that so many [...]

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