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	<title>Comments on: Journey to the Center of the Midwest</title>
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		<title>By: m Ozane</title>
		<link>http://kerryhowley.com/2008/08/20/journey-to-the-center-of-the-midwest/comment-page-1/#comment-1710</link>
		<dc:creator>m Ozane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friends, can you maybe asssit me? A good friend of mine is considering getting themselves a new CBR 1000 as their first new bike! They have never rode much of anything else before! I did say this is probably not a good idea for the first one, but they are adamant! What do you rekon, is this ok and would u maybe then just recommend proper lessons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends, can you maybe asssit me? A good friend of mine is considering getting themselves a new CBR 1000 as their first new bike! They have never rode much of anything else before! I did say this is probably not a good idea for the first one, but they are adamant! What do you rekon, is this ok and would u maybe then just recommend proper lessons?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Sorgatz</title>
		<link>http://kerryhowley.com/2008/08/20/journey-to-the-center-of-the-midwest/comment-page-1/#comment-818</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Sorgatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, what are you studying in Iowa, besides another culture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, what are you studying in Iowa, besides another culture?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Sorgatz</title>
		<link>http://kerryhowley.com/2008/08/20/journey-to-the-center-of-the-midwest/comment-page-1/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Sorgatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m not going to lie; high levels of social cooperation freak me out. The only other place I’ve lived where people didn’t steal bikes was a military dictatorship.&lt;/i&gt;

If by this you mean that Iowa City has too much bourgeois niceness for your taste, then I disagree passionately. When I had to go to gym class at Thomas Jefferson Middle School in the desert agricultural hick town of Indio, California, it was a hellish environment because of those boys&#039; lack of bourgeois niceness. It was like going to prison for 40 minutes a day, five days a week. In comparison, I find it difficult to understand people who whine that supposedly hypercivilized places like Disneyland and shopping malls are &quot;too clean.&quot;

Neither of us should let our libertarianism distort our judgment about &quot;high levels of social cooperation&quot; per se. A well-ordered society isn&#039;t necessarily an unfree society. Isn&#039;t this part of what Friedrich Hayek meant by spontaneous order? Isn&#039;t this what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sudval.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sudbury&lt;/a&gt;-model schools demonstrate empirically in their way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m not going to lie; high levels of social cooperation freak me out. The only other place I’ve lived where people didn’t steal bikes was a military dictatorship.</i></p>
<p>If by this you mean that Iowa City has too much bourgeois niceness for your taste, then I disagree passionately. When I had to go to gym class at Thomas Jefferson Middle School in the desert agricultural hick town of Indio, California, it was a hellish environment because of those boys&#8217; lack of bourgeois niceness. It was like going to prison for 40 minutes a day, five days a week. In comparison, I find it difficult to understand people who whine that supposedly hypercivilized places like Disneyland and shopping malls are &#8220;too clean.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither of us should let our libertarianism distort our judgment about &#8220;high levels of social cooperation&#8221; per se. A well-ordered society isn&#8217;t necessarily an unfree society. Isn&#8217;t this part of what Friedrich Hayek meant by spontaneous order? Isn&#8217;t this what <a href="http://www.sudval.org/" rel="nofollow">Sudbury</a>-model schools demonstrate empirically in their way?</p>
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